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William Montacute - King of Man
born - England - Salisbury, Wiltshire 1301
died - England - WIndsor, Berkshire 30 JAN 1343 -44
maried -
Katherine De Grandison
born - England - Ashford, Middlesex Co 1304
died - Bisham - Berkshire
Children
1 Sir John Montacute
2. Robert Montacute
3. Elizabeth Montacute
4. William Montacute
5. Anne Montacute
6. Philippa Montacute
7.Sybil Montacute

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Katherine De Grandison

"[scary.ged]
Catherine Grandison de Montecute was a lady of great beauty, and history records that
she was as good as she was beautiful. She also was a brave woman, worthy of such a
brave and noble man as was her husband, the Earl of Salisbury. She nobly defended and
aided with heroic valour the defense of the Castle of Werk, with her husband's brother, Sir
Edward de Montecute, and also bravely defended her own Castle of Salisbury from King
David of Scotland, while her husband was a prisoner of war in France."

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William Montacute - King of Man
Katherine De Grandison
"Katherine was the youngest of three daughters. Through her issue, she was co-heiress
of her nephew, Thomas, 4th lord Grandison. She made a vow of chastity after her
husband's death."

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"Katherine m. to William de Montacute, Earl of Salisbury. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant,
Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, 1883, p. 242,
Grandison, Barons Grandison]"

Sources:

1. Title: Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families
Author: Douglas Richardson
Publication: 2005, Genealogical Publishing Co. Inc., Kimball G. Everingham, editor
Page: pg. 576
2. Title: Plantagenet Ancestry, Richardson
Author: Richardson, Douglas
Publication: Baltimore, Md., Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc. 2004
Page: pg. 508

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William Montacute - King of Man
Katherine De Grandison
"[jweber.ged]
He [William de Montagu] married (in or before 1327) Katharine, youngest of the 3
daughters of William (DE GRANDISON), 1st LORD GRANDISON, by Sibyl, daughter and
coheir of John (TREGOZ), LORD TREGOZ, and in her issue, coheir of her nephew
Thomas, 4th Lord Grandison. He died 30 January 1343/4, and was buried at Bisham. His
widow, who made a vow of chastity, and had dower in all his possessions, including the
£20 annuity, died 23 April 1349. [Complete Peerage XI:385-8, (transcribed by Dave
Utzinger)]
Sources:

1. Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis
Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
Page: 8a-31
2. Title: Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee
Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999
Page: 36-8, 17b-17
3. Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United
Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
Page: XI:385-8
4. Title: jweber.ged
Repository:
Media: Other
Text: Date of Import: 22 Jun 2005
5. Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis
Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
Page: 8a-31
Text: 1349
6. Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
Page: Adrian Channing, 8 Apr 2001
Text: bef. 1328

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William De Grandison
Sybil Tregoz
"[scary.ged]
Sir William de Grandison of Asperton, County Hereford, was in service of Edmund, Earl of
Lancaster. He was excepted from military duty in Gascony in 1294, in which year he
appears as Governor of Jersey and Guernsey. He was summoned to Parliament from
Feb. 6, 1280, to Oct. 10, 1325, by writs directed to Willimo de Grandisono, whereby he is
held to have become Lord Grandison, and was present at a meeting of Parliament April 5,
1305, at the house of his brother, Otis de Grandison Archbishop of York in Westmenster.
He was summoned to the Coronation of Edward II Jan. 18, 1307. Having been summoned
for military service in 1322, he did not attend the muster, and his lands were seized; but
the absence being due to severe illness, license was given him to remain at home for the
more speedy restoration of his health, provided that he sent at least six men-at-arms for
the expedition. On Sept. 20, 1329, he had respite of homage until Easter following as the
King had learnt that he was so infirm and aged that he was unable to come. He was,
however, summoned July 12, 1332, to be with the King at Michaelmas and take passage
to Ireland on the expedition there. He married in or before 1285 Sybil, younger daughter of
Sir John Tregoze of Ewyas, by his first wife Mabel, daughter of Fulke FitzWarine. On Nov.
26, 1300, it was ordered that the lands of Sir John Tregoze should be divided between
William de Grandison and wife and the other co-heir they having done homage. Partition
took place Dec. 1, 1300, by mutual assent. His wife died June 27, 1335 (Cokayne's
Complete Peerage, Vol. 6, pp. 60/1).
William de Grandison was younger brother of Sir Otho de Grandison, who was Secretary
to Edward I, and afterwards Lord Grandison. William was originally a menial servant to
Edmund, Lord Pancaster, and obtained from that Prince in consideration for his own
faithful services and the services of his ancestors a grant of the Manors of Radley and
Menstreworth, County Gloucester. In the 20th of Edward I, 1292, he procured a license to
make a castle of his home at Asperton, County Here ford, and in two years afterwards he
was in the expedition made into Gascony, where he continued for some time, and while
so engaged was summoned to Parliament as a Baron. He was afterwards engaged in the
Scottish wars. His Lordship married Sibilla, daughter of Sir John Tregoze, and upon
partition of the lands of that inheritance acquired the Manors of Burnham, County
Somerset, and Eton in Herefordshire. He had issue by this lady three sons and three
daughters: Peter, his successor, 2nd Baron Grandison; John, Bishop of Exeter; Otho, a
distinguished soldier; Mabella married Sir John Patteshull; Katherine, of whom further;
Agnes married Sir John Northwode (Burke's Dormant and Extinct Peerage, p. 242)"

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William De Grandison
Sybil Tregoz
"[scary.ged]
Sibilla Tregoze, who was living at her father's death in 1300, and then 28 years of age,
being then the wife of William de Grandison (or as it was Latinized "de Grandi Sono"),
some time of Exon Hall, County Gloucester, to whom she was married about the 13th of
Edward III, 1339, when her father settled upon her and her husband lands at Lydiard
Tregoze in Wilts in frank marriage."

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William De Grandison
Sybil Tregoz
"Sibyl, younger daughter of John, Lord Tregoz, by his 1st wife, wife of William de
Grandison, 1st Lord Grandison. Sibyl m. William in or before 1285. She d. 21 Oct 1334
and was buried at Dore abbey."

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William De Grandison
Sybil Tregoz
"[jweber.ged]
BARONY OF GRANDISON (I)
SIR WILLIAM DE GRANDISON, of Ashperton, co. Hereford, &c., younger brother of Otes DE
GRANDISON, was in the service of Edmund, Earl of Lancaster. On 4 November 1288 he
had letters of protection when remaining in Wales in order to fortify the castle of Carnarvon,
and was still there 6 November 1289, taking the place of his brother, Otes de Grandison.
On 3 May 1292 he had licence to strengthen his house of Ashperton with a wall of stone
and lime and to crenellate it. He was excepted from military service in Gascony in 1294, in
which year he appears as governor of Jersey and Guernsey for his brother. He was
summoned to Carlisle for Military Service 26 September (1298). He was summoned to
Parliament from 6 February 1298/9 to 10 October 1325, by writs directed Willelmo de
Grandisono, whereby he is held to have become LORD GRANDISON; and was present at
a meeting of Parliament, 5 April 1305 at the house of his brother, Otes de Grandison,
Archbishop of York, in Westminster. He was summoned again for Military Service and to
various Councils from 7 May 1299 to 21 March 1332/3. He was in Gascony with Edmund,
Earl of Lancaster, before 1 January 1295/6, when his lands were restored to him, seized
by the Crown on an order to take all lands, &c., of alien laymen of the power of France, but
William de Grandison was still in the King's faith. He was present at the siege of
Carlaverock in July 1300. He was summoned to the Coronation of Edward II, 18 January
1307/8. On 23 February 1309/10 he had letters of protection on going beyond the seas. In
1318 the Prior of the Hospital of St. John of Jerusalem complained that William de
Grandison and Piers, his son, and Otes, brother of Piers, and others had broken into his
houses at Dartford in Kent and robbed and assaulted, to which accusation there was a
counterclaim by William de Grandison that there had been theft of his goods there. Having
been summoned for Military Service in 1322, he did not attend the muster, and his lands
were seized; but the absence being due to severe illness, licence was given him to
remain at home for the more speedy restoration of his health, provided that he sent at
least 6 men-at-arms for the expedition. He had letters of protection going to Ireland 16
June 1327, and on 20 September 1329 had respite of homage till Easter following, as the
King had learnt that he was so infirm and aged that he was unable to come. He was,
however, summoned, 12 July 1332, to be with the King at Michaelmas and take passage
to Ireland on the expedition there.

He married, in or before 1285, Sibyl, younger daughter and coheir of Sir John TREGOZ, of
Ewyas Harold, &c. [LORD TREGOZ], by his 1st wife, Mabel, daughter of Sir Fulk
FITZWARIN. On 26 November 1300 it was ordered that the lands of Sir John Tregoz
should be divided between William de Grandison and his wife and the other coheir, they
having done homage. The partition took place 21 December 1300 by mutual assent, but,
after petitions concerning the knights' fees of Ewyas Harold, a final partition was made 29
October 1302. His wife died 21 October 1334, and was buried at Dore Abbey. He died 27
June 1335, and was presumably also buried at Dore Abbey. [Complete Peerage VI:60-2,
(transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

Note: CP doesn't mention any previous marriage to Blanche Savoie here, except in note (i),
but does in volume I:418. In note (i) VI:61-2, CP gives evidence of a previous marriage of
William (with two sons) to an unnamed wife, who I suppose is the Blanche de Savoie
mentioned in I:418 as mother of one of the daughters Agnes.

Note: Since CP refers to brother Otes, who has the information on the ancestry of William
& Otes, I include part of the CP article for Otes (who also became a Baron and lived in
Westminster) below:

SIR OTES DE GRANDISON was most probably son and heir. of Pierre DE GRANSON,
SEIGNEUR DE GRANSON on the Lake of Neufchâtel, by Agnes, daughter of Ulric, COMTE
DE NEUFCHATEL, a grandson of Ebal IV, SEIGNEUR DE GRANSON (b).

(b) Pedigrees differ, sometimes his father being given as Guillaume and sometimes
Pierre. On the other hand, M.L. de Charriere (whose work seems to be the most
authentic), in 'Les Dynastes de Grandison', gives Amadee Seigneur de Granson (d. 1300),
as father of Otes and William de Grandison, by his wife Benoite de la Tour de Gerenstein.
The last "piece justicative" of this work is of date 1258 and there is no actual authority for
the statement, without which it is almost impossible to overlook the fact of the entry in the
Grandison breviary [in which William's (probably this William's) mother is said to be
Agnes].

Note: Playing it safe, I am going with M.L. de Charriere's ancestry. It has Pierre and Agnes
as grandparents.

William de Grandison (younger brother of Sir Otho de Grandison, secretary to King Edward
I, and afterwards Lord Grandison), being originally a menial servant to Edmund, Earl of
Lancaster, obtained from that prince, in consideration of his own faithful services and the
services of his ancestors, a grant of the manors of Radley and Menstreworth, co.
Gloucester. In the 20th Edward I [1292], he procured license to make a castle of his house
at Asperton, co. Hereford, and in two years afterwards he was in the expedition made into
Gascony, where he continued for some time and, while so engaged, was summoned to
parliament as a baron. He was afterwards engaged in the Scottish wars.

His lordship m. Sibilla, youngest dau. and fo-heiress of Sir John de Tregoz, and upon
partition of the lands of that inheritance, acquired the manors of Burnham, co. Somerset,
and Eton, in Herefordshire. He had issue by this lady, viz., Peter, John, Otho, Mabella,
Katherine, and Agnes. His lordship d. before 1335 and was s. by his eldest son, Peter de
Grandison, 2nd baron. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct
Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, 1883, p. 242, Grandison, Barons Grandison]"

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William De Grandison
Sybil Tregoz
Sources:

1. Abbrev: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis
Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis
Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
Page: 8a-31, 257-32
Quality: 3
2. Abbrev: Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee
Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999
Title: Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee
Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999
Date: 8 Dec 2000
Page: 17b-17, 36-8
Quality: 3
3. Abbrev: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United
Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United
Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
Page: VI:60-62
Quality: 3
4. Abbrev: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United
Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United
Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
Page: I:418
Quality: 3
5. Abbrev: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis
Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis
Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
Page: 8a-31
Quality: 3
6. Media: Internet Database (Rootsweb)
Abbrev: Phillips, Weber, Kirk, & Staggs families of the Pacific Northwest
Title: Phillips, Weber, Kirk, & Staggs families of the Pacific Northwest
Author: James Staggs Weber
Publication: feb 2006
jim.weber@nwintl.com
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=jweber&id=I22109
7. Abbrev: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis
Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis
Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
Page: 257-32
8. Abbrev: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United
Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United
Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
Page: XII/2:22 (e)
9. Abbrev: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United
Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United
Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
Page: VI:60-62


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William De Grandison
Sybil Tregoz
"William de Grandison (younger brother of Sir Otho de Grandison, secretary to King
Edward I, and afterwards Lord Grandison), being originally a menial servant to Edmund,
Earl of Lancaster, obtained from that prince, in consideration of his own faithful services
and the services of his ancestors, a grant of the manors of Radley and Menstreworth, co.
Gloucester.
He survived his wife, Sibyl, younger daughter and coheir of Sir John Tregoz, she dying Oct
1334, he following her in Jun 1335"

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